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Post by awomanontheverge on Dec 21, 2012 22:06:15 GMT -6
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Post by agramontes on Dec 21, 2012 23:39:36 GMT -6
Yeah. That's good. Doesn't mean Neal isn't a lost boy that lived in Neverland for a long time. Or several other characters. They have to find a way to explain the 300 years that passed between Bae as a kid and Neal as an adult. If Neal is Bae...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 4:09:55 GMT -6
I'm going to say it is the Charmings who break up. The interview with Ginny said they have a lot of different ideas about going forward here vs going back. That Charming wants to goback to the kingdom they fought for but Snow has seen how devastated it is and wants to start over here instead,
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Post by giftofamber on Dec 22, 2012 7:59:15 GMT -6
I don't think it's the Charmings they are referring to because OUAT is not looking at next season being its last (at least not yet) & the Charmings splitting wouldn't really have a huge effect on shippers.
If Regina has met Neal before, then I guess he must be the White Rabbit, but I was really hoping he was just Neal Cassady & would die of a drug overdose like in On the Road.
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Post by awomanontheverge on Dec 22, 2012 9:13:21 GMT -6
I don't think it's the Charmings they are referring to because OUAT is not looking at next season being its last (at least not yet) & the Charmings splitting wouldn't really have a huge effect on shippers. While my theory was White Rabbit as well, based on the interview they just gave, they said no to seeing more of Wonderland. But, I'm wondering if their 'no' was toward the second part of the question - ' specifically Alice' or about Wonderland as a whole. I suppose Neal COULD be the White Rabbit without showing a flash back of him in Wonderland, I just assumed that if we find out Regina knows him from the past, they would show their interaction and what not (similar to the Hook situation) - if that ends up being the case.
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Post by giftofamber on Dec 25, 2012 17:20:22 GMT -6
So, as our "Christmas present," the writers told us that the title of ep 215 is "The Queen is Dead."
Who does something like that on Christmas?
Choices for the Queen in question:
1) Cora 2) Regina 3) Snow's mother
I know they were casting before for Snow's mother, so that's my hope, but having lived through BTVS, I don't put anything past the writers. All I can hope is that if Regina does die, she doesn't stay dead.
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Post by ery on Dec 25, 2012 17:54:06 GMT -6
I'm scared the dead Queen could be Cora ( I love Barbara)... it's too soon in my opinion... I hope it's the about Snow's mother death...
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Post by shikabanemai on Dec 25, 2012 22:49:11 GMT -6
My thoughts:
1) "Queen is Dead" does not equal to Regina literally dying. I will bet money on this that she isn't going to die for a simple narrative reason: killing off one of the main characters such as Regina, especially one with such a large fanbase, in the middle of the seasons makes no sense. If the writers were really going to kill her off, it'd be in the season finale. Not only that, but if they were really gonna kill her off, why would they spoil it in the title? Have you guys seriously ever seen any TV writers do that?
2) I think "The Queen is Dead" may refer to one of the following things: If it's the Cora-backstory fic, it may briefly span her time into Wonderland where she kills the former queen.
Alternatively, the "The Queen is Dead" may be a metaphor in reference to Regina. Perhaps this is the episode when the "Evil Queen" persona dies and Regina finds some form of redemption - a note of warning about this though is that redemption in Episode 15 means that she'll most likely go downhill sometime between Ep 15 and the season finale. Now considering the opposite end of the spectrum, "The Queen is Dead" may instead refer to the complete emotional breakdown of Regina (ie. hitting rock bottom) by the hands of Cora. We know the Cora/Regina reunion will be in Ep 12 and it may take 3 episodes before Cora is able to tear down all of Regina's defenses.
3) If anyone's truly dying, it'll be Cora. Although honestly, I still find this unlikely just because Cora and Hook are serving the tv trope of the "Big Bads" who are usually killed in season finales.
Whatever happens, I'm psyched for Episode 15 just because it sounds like it'll be Regina heavy!
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Post by agramontes on Dec 26, 2012 1:12:34 GMT -6
I hope it means the episode where Regina has a lot of 'little deaths'.
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Post by korderoo on Dec 26, 2012 4:05:51 GMT -6
I hope it means the episode where Regina has a lot of 'little deaths'. LOL!!!! THIS!!!!! Amazing!
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Post by agramontes on Dec 26, 2012 10:32:44 GMT -6
agramontesedit shedoesntjoke:
Guys, calm down, I don’t think that the Queen that is dead is Regina, actually I don’t even think that a Queen will really die in that episode. I think 2x15 will be Cora’s centric episode and she is the miller’s daughter so we know that at some point in her life she married or almost married a king and she made a deal with Rumple involving Regina, maybe she gave up being queen and that’s what the title means or maybe she faked her death to get out of the deal with Rumple idk
This also fits the theory that the King that held The Millers Daughter and made her spin straw into gold may be King George. That Queen drank a potion to become barren and King George refers to her as ‘gone’ not as ‘dead’. Hmm… But we also suspect that Cora had The ‘White’ Queen killed; Snow’s mother, in order to orchestrate Regina’s marriage to the (Burger) King Leopold. It would be great if the episode told both these stories in parallel, as they so often do on ONCE. It would be a Cora origin story double header. This is from my tumblr.
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Post by evilregalqueen on Dec 26, 2012 13:59:20 GMT -6
My thoughts:1) "Queen is Dead" does not equal to Regina literally dying. I will bet money on this that she isn't going to die for a simple narrative reason: killing off one of the main characters such as Regina, especially one with such a large fanbase, in the middle of the seasons makes no sense. If the writers were really going to kill her off, it'd be in the season finale. Not only that, but if they were really gonna kill her off, why would they spoil it in the title? Have you guys seriously ever seen any TV writers do that? 2) I think "The Queen is Dead" may refer to one of the following things: If it's the Cora-backstory fic, it may briefly span her time into Wonderland where she kills the former queen. Alternatively, the "The Queen is Dead" may be a metaphor in reference to Regina. Perhaps this is the episode when the "Evil Queen" persona dies and Regina finds some form of redemption - a note of warning about this though is that redemption in Episode 15 means that she'll most likely go downhill sometime between Ep 15 and the season finale. Now considering the opposite end of the spectrum, "The Queen is Dead" may instead refer to the complete emotional breakdown of Regina (ie. hitting rock bottom) by the hands of Cora. We know the Cora/Regina reunion will be in Ep 12 and it may take 3 episodes before Cora is able to tear down all of Regina's defenses. 3) If anyone's truly dying, it'll be Cora. Although honestly, I still find this unlikely just because Cora and Hook are serving the tv trope of the "Big Bads" who are usually killed in season finales. Whatever happens, I'm psyched for Episode 15 just because it sounds like it'll be Regina heavy! EVERYTHING. HERE. IS. PERFECT. I so want this to be like the death of the Evil Queen or something like that... Lots of metaphor and lots of Regina, please!
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Post by evilregalqueen on Dec 26, 2012 14:03:09 GMT -6
agramontesedit shedoesntjoke: Guys, calm down, I don’t think that the Queen that is dead is Regina, actually I don’t even think that a Queen will really die in that episode. I think 2x15 will be Cora’s centric episode and she is the miller’s daughter so we know that at some point in her life she married or almost married a king and she made a deal with Rumple involving Regina, maybe she gave up being queen and that’s what the title means or maybe she faked her death to get out of the deal with Rumple idk This also fits the theory that the King that held The Millers Daughter and made her spin straw into gold may be King George. That Queen drank a potion to become barren and King George refers to her as ‘gone’ not as ‘dead’. Hmm… But we also suspect that Cora had The ‘White’ Queen killed; Snow’s mother, in order to orchestrate Regina’s marriage to the (Burger) King Leopold. It would be great if the episode told both these stories in parallel, as they so often do on ONCE. It would be a Cora origin story double header. This is from my tumblr. Well it does make a lot of sense. But since the beginning I knew no one was dying. It wouldn't make sense to kill any of the main queens (as in Cora or Regina) in the middle of the season, unless it was some background story (like the death of Snow's mom, or something). I just wish it had something to do with Regina, but these parallels you say there would add more things to the story and would be really interesting. I still wanna know Cora's story with Rumple...
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Post by agramontes on Dec 26, 2012 18:21:09 GMT -6
It's too bad we won't get to see Rose McGowan and Lana Parrilla in any scenes together...
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Post by evilregalqueen on Dec 28, 2012 17:07:42 GMT -6
Ugh, Phillip is coming back... there goes someone i couldn't care less about and they're throwing him around like all these new characters...
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