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Post by EvilQueen on Apr 1, 2013 17:14:26 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 3:14:57 GMT -6
I had to come here to see that it wasn't a really good manip for an April Fool's joke. Since I saw it only on #swanqueen Twitter tags and not any of the OUAT spoiler sites yesterday.
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Post by EvilQueen on Apr 2, 2013 6:48:31 GMT -6
makes me wonder though, why is Regina running instead of magically teleporting herself???  |
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Post by yessikg on Apr 2, 2013 10:08:07 GMT -6
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Post by giftofamber on Apr 2, 2013 21:23:11 GMT -6
I had to come here to see that it wasn't a really good manip for an April Fool's joke. Since I saw it only on #swanqueen Twitter tags and not any of the OUAT spoiler sites yesterday. Haha. Yeah, some of the April Fools jokes were a bit over the top, but Sarah posted the pic, and she doesn't seem into April Fools jokes. Not to mention, it matches w/Vancity Filmings hints at what they saw (which they posted today so as not to be thought of as an April Fools thing). Basically the gist is working together for Henry again.  Which means we've come full circle plot-wise and the characters have grown? Maybe? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2013 11:42:04 GMT -6
Basically the gist is working together for Henry again. Which means we've come full circle plot-wise and the characters have grown? Maybe? Here's hoping. I've been noticing some thematic and even dialogue parallels between the season eps, such as things that happen in 1x08 get paralleled in 2x08, or 1x10 and 2x10 and definitely 1x18 and 2x18. It might just be the writers only know one line of dialogue to fit a certain type of situation, but it is also direction/staging for scenes that is seemingly revealing parallels. Edited to add: My point, and I did have one, is that the only reason to repeat things is to show an individual character's change in response/choice (character growth) or parallel relationships to put them on an equal footing (thematic purpose) in the viewer's/reader's mind. |
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Post by sagehawk on Apr 5, 2013 1:44:05 GMT -6
Basically the gist is working together for Henry again. Which means we've come full circle plot-wise and the characters have grown? Maybe? Here's hoping. I've been noticing some thematic and even dialogue parallels between the season eps, such as things that happen in 1x08 get paralleled in 2x08, or 1x10 and 2x10 and definitely 1x18 and 2x18. It might just be the writers only know one line of dialogue to fit a certain type of situation, but it is also direction/staging for scenes that is seemingly revealing parallels. Edited to add: My point, and I did have one, is that the only reason to repeat things is to show an individual character's change in response/choice (character growth) or parallel relationships to put them on an equal footing (thematic purpose) in the viewer's/reader's mind. Ah thats interesting. There are a lot of theatrical students that say how SwanQueen being canon fits all the theatrical cues they have set up on the show... but no one ever elaborates. (hi sorry I've been lurking a lot ) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 3:45:46 GMT -6
Edited to add: My point, and I did have one, is that the only reason to repeat things is to show an individual character's change in response/choice (character growth) or parallel relationships to put them on an equal footing (thematic purpose) in the viewer's/reader's mind. Ah thats interesting. There are a lot of theatrical students that say how SwanQueen being canon fits all the theatrical cues they have set up on the show... but no one ever elaborates. (hi sorry I've been lurking a lot ) Welcome in from the "lurker belt" (similar to the meteroid belt but, yeah...) LOL I only acted in one thing in my entire life. I look at television from the point of view of an author, and the fact that I'm a student of literature and writing as a teacher of English and Language Arts. For "Once Upon A Time" I am at times marveling, and at times, very frustrated, by the writing. It appalls me when I see thematic threads clearly set up and then dropped, and it can't be put down to "they cut that for time." It excites me when I see and hear dialogue parallels as well as physical/staging parallels to classic literature, and it really excites me when I can see a skillful divergence that mirrors a modern sensibility but is drawn from the crux of the classic fairytale. But it irritates me when I see or hear evidence of plot-driven character instead of character-driven plot. I am a believer that all plots and plot arcs should arise from within character, and character is never simply altered to serve plot twists that have no other foundation from which to spring. Manipulation between characters is another story, but there's still "tells" you can employ to show that a character is forced to act OOC because all other options are not available to them. And that can be the difference between a written book and a staged show... much of that responsibility lies on the actor/actress to convey, and if you have someone incapable of that translation, it will not carry without explicit instruction. I've already seen some evidence that the writers do not give that sort of direction in the scripts. There has, however, been some need for that in a few instances. |
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Post by EvilQueen on Apr 15, 2013 1:46:40 GMT -6
Has anyone seen the latest promo? Regina is being tortured!!!!  |
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Post by agramontes on Apr 15, 2013 6:30:55 GMT -6
Total spoilers theory coming up:
Hook teams with GregOwen and Tamara thinking that their 'we can kill magic beings' will show him how to kill Rumpletown. But GregO and T actually plan to kill Regina. They electroshock her until she dies or it looks like she's dead. Then hook feels bad so he goes and tells Emma and David who come and rescue her. Somehow she lives. (Hopefully SwanQueen!!!)
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Post by sagehawk on Apr 15, 2013 9:03:40 GMT -6
I dont know how I feel about that promo.
But I think I might have whats going to happen wored out if anyone is interested: I think Regina decides to meet with Emma about being in Henry's life. She figures she will let her as she has given up on the whole revenge on Snow thing(at least directly anyways). I think Emma tells her not until she stops using magic all together, but that she can come to his Birth day party. This would explain why Regina looks so unhappy leaving the docks where her and Emma are in that scene. Then on her way home, she runs in to Tamera/Owen/Hook(one or all of them) and she tells her thier plan to steel magic 'n what not. Regina thinks "hey a quick way to get rid of my magic so Emma will let me see my son". So she is like "sure you dont even have to do anything I volenteer". Figuring they are ametures and she can just go to Emma(or Rumple) and find a way to stop them. When they get to the electro thingy, they tell her it will hurt like a bitch, But they don't tell her that it will kill her. Regina agrees, which puts a bad taste in my mouth becasue it has self harm impications all over it. Emma and Henry(well noone actually) will not acept Regina for who she is, so she feels she has to hurt herself for them to acept her.(reflecting self harm in real life) Which I am sure Regina is at this point psychologically. I've talked to other people and we were honestly surprised she hadent tried to commit suicide yet.
So back at Henry's b-day, Regina is late and henry is upset(you can tell by the pictures)it looks like Regina has ditched him and really doesnt care about him. Rumple tries to chear him up. And Henry blows out his candles and DOES wish that Regina was there... suddenly they hear something out side and so Henry, with rumple in tow goes out side. AND BAM Regina is out there along with the electrocution trio half dead... and that is why everyone is shocked.
Henry to the rescue somewhere in there with the 'kiss of true love' for Regina.
Stuff goes down, Neal dies(or they think he does) and Henry gets taken by Tamera and Owen. So now everyone has to work together to get Henry back. (I still dont know where Hook falls in to this, as I still see no reason for him to want to help them. Unless he is a prisoner? idk) Regina and Emma running and the charmings behind them is probably them running to the ship to get Henry.
thats what I think anyways ... or would like to happen(only with emma and the true loves kiss, which totally wont happen but i can dream).
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Post by EvilQueen on Apr 15, 2013 12:32:22 GMT -6
I don't think Emma and Regina could've made the deal about Henry's birthday party because in the pictures it looks like it's a surprise to everyone, Rumple has invited them to their shop and then presented the cake and all that.
Yes, Henry is unhappy, I hope because of Regina not being there but I don't think at this point she's captured yet - the events where she's being electrocuted seem to be in the Evil Queen episode, not Lacey.
Also, I don't think that straight after being half-dead Regina would be able to run with the Charmings at the docks, although who knows the power of true love. (but I think the dock running takes place late in the final episode when they are chasing after Greg and Tamara kidnapping Henry - so my bet is that's quite a while after the electrocuting scenes)
If Regina suddenly appeared after Henry's wish I would be sorely disappointed in the writing - I'd think it would be more of a sign that something's wrong and she needs their help.
And a big massive "NO" to Regina self-harming. She's been in low moments but she's NOT at such a low point to harm herself, especially that she has no actual reason to do it - Snow White's heart is getting darker so she can have her revenge and it's not like Henry exactly hates her to the point she would inflict any harm on herself. She IS a strong person and DEFINITELY wouldn't trust neither Tamara nor Greg with doing anything to her. I honestly can't see all that as anything other as Regina being forced to this torture - perhaps Greg wanted to interrogate her about his father and became desperate.
We also know that Regina is to "double-cross Hook" - this I think will be the scene where she looks like dead and he approaches her - we know she didn't recognise when Cora was pretending to be dead so perhaps Reggie has learnt something from her mother after all.
As for the funeral - I hope SO BADLY it's Neal's but I doubt the writers will get rid of the actor at this point in time...
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Post by EvilQueen on Apr 16, 2013 1:22:25 GMT -6
What's with the whole twitter going "Swan Queen is dead"  ?? *scratches her head in confusion* |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 15:29:41 GMT -6
Well, I don't know about "SwanQueen is dead" but I was verklempt at the nude of Jennifer Morrison on the allure.com site. Figuratively "dead" from the beautiful expanse of skin and curves on display.
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Post by giftofamber on Apr 16, 2013 19:51:24 GMT -6
Well, I don't know about "SwanQueen is dead" but I was verklempt at the nude of Jennifer Morrison on the allure.com site. Figuratively "dead" from the beautiful expanse of skin and curves on display. Yes, I believe we all metaphorically died from those Allure pics (even though I could hardly recognize her face). Wonder when the sneak peeks are coming out. I'm almost anxious. |
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Which means we've come full circle plot-wise and the characters have grown? Maybe?
?? *scratches her head in confusion*