gi021
Forbidden Fruit
Posts: 51
|
Post by gi021 on Dec 13, 2012 13:23:20 GMT -6
I still don't get how they captured her. She has magic by this time, if it's after she married Leopold, which, it is since Snow appears to be trying to kill Regina. So, how do they capture someone with magic? Makes me think she lets them for some reason. I thought the same, my guess is that she want to get near Snow to kill her, that or Snow had help from someone with magic. And can I say ‘What the hell!’, if they kill Archie. I mean they are going to kill only the guys that are nice and let just the douchebags on the show??? |
|
|
|
Post by phoenix521 on Dec 13, 2012 14:31:05 GMT -6
I think it was the writers that once said that not all the characters would survive. They said it in a way that made me think they meant major characters. I don't see them killing Archie though. He's too much a part of Regina's redemption for them to do that. Also, I'm guessing as others have said that it will be someone's heart ripped out. And, of course, the only one they think of to blame will be Regina.
|
|
J.
Forbidden Fruit
Posts: 54
|
Post by J. on Dec 13, 2012 19:40:28 GMT -6
Based on the name of this episode, I think it's pretty obvious that it's somehow centered around Archie, but I don't think at all that he dies. If we read the synopsis again, it says that Regina is accused of murdering someone, but the mere fact that Emma thinks she's innocent kind of makes me think that she probably didn't kill anyone. I think this is much more likely to be an episode that parallels FTL Regina being justly accused of evil doings after Snow and Charming capture her somehow (with Rumple's help, maybe? he seems to have a hand in everything...) to Storybrooke Regina being wrongly accused of doing something to Archie. And whatever that is -- and I don't think it's murder -- I bet Cora did it to try to turn people against Regina in hopes she'll run back to Mama.  Doesn't that sound like something Cora would do? |
|
|
|
Post by agramontes on Dec 13, 2012 21:07:55 GMT -6
There's a tumblr pic of Emma running around manhattan. What are the chances Neal is not Bae at this point?
|
|
|
|
Post by bellemalheur on Dec 13, 2012 22:05:37 GMT -6
Henry is in NYC with Emma too...Blerg. One big happy charmingstiltskin family. Blech.
|
|
|
|
Post by agramontes on Dec 13, 2012 22:19:34 GMT -6
Where's Regina in all this? She's not in Storybrooke with charm/snow/elves....
I hope she's waiting in the car for Emma and Henry and not off with Cora/Rumple.
(Beginning to worry a bit.)
|
|
|
|
Post by museless22 on Dec 14, 2012 14:51:08 GMT -6
There's a tumblr pic of Emma running around manhattan. What are the chances Neal is not Bae at this point? Seriously? *sigh* I was so hoping they wouldn't go that route. It's okay for all of your characters not to have a big twisty connection, gosh darndet. I get the feeling I'm not going to like where they're headed at all. |
|
J.
Forbidden Fruit
Posts: 54
|
Post by J. on Dec 14, 2012 22:41:23 GMT -6
I definitely agree that the pictures of Emma and Henry around NY make it look like Neal is gonna be Bae. I can't think of another reason why she'd take him there. But I still really really hope he isn't.
I think there's a certain amount of suspension of disbelief that I'm willing to put into this show. It can have magic, and have everyone be a fairy tale character, and curses can be broken with kisses, and former Evil Queens can make magic curses out of beetle eyes and frog's tongues and spider legs or whatever. I'm cool with that, I knew what I signed up for when I started watching this show (well, minus the SwanQueen, that part was just an added bonus). But Henry's father being Bae is just too much for me.
I guess if they did go that route, the explanation for the age thing would be that Bae was transported to a land without magic, but we don't know when, so he could have been moved in time too somehow. Or that he doesn't age.
But the real problem for me with this is that the only two people outside of Storybrooke who are originally from FTL meeting in a world where we have 7 billion people, falling in love and having a child who somehow gets to Storybrooke is just absurd. And I don't mean that in a "OMG they are all fairy tale characters, that's absurd!" kind of way. I know the writing on this show isn't stellar, but that would be pretty crappy, lazy storytelling.
And at this point, it would give me an ever worse feeling than finding out Cora was the QoH, because that, however unsurprising, still made lots of sense.
Please, Show, I love your characters, don't make me stop watching you because of your crappy storylines.
|
|
|
|
Post by awomanontheverge on Dec 15, 2012 9:08:10 GMT -6
It, unfortunately, seems as though Neal is Bae, which will be rather funny, in a sense, because I'm sure the writers think this is going to be some super amazing, climactic reveal, when most have theorized this from the start.
*cough*CoraastheQueenofHearts*cough*
|
|
|
|
Post by starbuck24 on Dec 15, 2012 10:39:49 GMT -6
But the real problem for me with this is that the only two people outside of Storybrooke who are originally from FTL meeting in a world where we have 7 billion people, falling in love and having a child who somehow gets to Storybrooke is just absurd. This! There's coincidences and keeping everything connected. And then there's overkill. Henry's father being Baelfire would be the latter. Of course Baelfire conveniently was brought not to any of the other words, but to our world and of course he went through time and came out at the exact right point to knock up the Saviour. And their explanation would probably something vague and general like "you're the product of true love". Blah. Not excited about this. And then there's the added "bonus" of every single main player on this show except Regina being blood related to Henry. As if Regina isn't sidelined enough already when it comes to her son. |
|
J.
Forbidden Fruit
Posts: 54
|
Post by J. on Dec 15, 2012 15:02:24 GMT -6
This! There's coincidences and keeping everything connected. And then there's overkill. Henry's father being Baelfire would be the latter. Of course Baelfire conveniently was brought not to any of the other words, but to our world and of course he went through time and came out at the exact right point to knock up the Saviour. And their explanation would probably something vague and general like "you're the product of true love". Blah. Not excited about this. And then there's the added "bonus" of every single main player on this show except Regina being blood related to Henry. As if Regina isn't sidelined enough already when it comes to her son. Exactly. It's total overkill, and they can't possibly think that would be a surprise. Plus, I don't think they've been dropping hints like with Cora. I hate the possibility that Rumple might be a blood relative of Henry while Regina, who is actually his mother, isn't. It's not like this kid needs any more confusing parts to his family anyway. I think it's way overdue that this show at least acknowledge the fact that the only person there who can be referred to as Henry's parent is Regina, despite anything else she might have done. She raised him so far and all the other people, Snow, Charming, Emma, have only been there for about a year. Making Rumple his grandfather and getting his biological father back in the picture really isn't what I'm hoping to see this season. And if Henry, Emma and Neal start playing happy families on this show, I might just stop watching. |
|
|
|
Post by agramontes on Dec 16, 2012 0:45:19 GMT -6
Guys....
If Emma and Henry are in NYC chasing down 'Beal'
And Snow and Charms are doing something in a Giants Hole in Storybrooke,
Where's Regie?
Lana posted a pic of some Christmas decorations on sixth avenue in NYC....(don't quote me on this but I do think I can recognize 6th and 49th st. Aprox.)
And Jen posted a pic of the 'Rocafella' Tree. That's only a few blocks from the other picture.
What if Lana was in NYC filming? But secretly? Any thoughts?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2012 4:49:59 GMT -6
Maybe Regina follows Emma and Henry to NYC, risking losing her FTL memories to do so.
I would also think that if Emma went out of town, she didn't intentionally take Henry with her, but "like father, like son" he was in the back seat of her bug and she didn't know he was there until it was too late to turn back to Storybrooke. Then Regina finds out where Emma went, and follows.
|
|
|
|
Post by evilregalqueen on Dec 16, 2012 7:43:34 GMT -6
Maybe Regina follows Emma and Henry to NYC, risking losing her FTL memories to do so. I would also think that if Emma went out of town, she didn't intentionally take Henry with her, but "like father, like son" he was in the back seat of her bug and she didn't know he was there until it was too late to turn back to Storybrooke. Then Regina finds out where Emma went, and follows. Yeah, like she thinks Emma is kidnapping him, so she goes after them.... That'd be interesting. |
|
|
|
Post by giftofamber on Dec 16, 2012 7:49:42 GMT -6
That makes sense. If I were Regina, I would want to lose my FTL memories.
As for this Neal guy, I'm thinking he has to appear again so that he can die like Daniel, so that Emma has another parallel with Regina.
I'm wondering if there is any proof of him being Bae because all this chasing reminds me of Alice and the White Rabbit. Also, he could very easily be the Neal Cassady from 'On the Road' (who died at 42) with Jack Kerouac, now that we know they are taking characters from literature.
|
|
Doesn't that sound like something Cora would do?
